Vent Cables

Gerrys57
3/9/09

Ok so I'm trying to replace my vent cables on 57 4DR sedan. DO I have to remove the fender wells? I really hope not I've already broke one clip off from the bottom of the fender trying to remove and get access to the vent assembly

Johnny Gardener UK
3/10/09

Hi Guys, the same question, I dont have any vent cables going to the vent tube connections, what kind of a job is it? and,,,,

PLUS also for a nother reason, I want to replace a front fender stainless trim strip, the first set of clip nuts are easy, but the last 2 are under the wing well!

Mr Bowtie told me some time ago, that to remove the trim, the fender has to come off! or remove the heater tube under the inner fender! is the removal of this heater inlet tube hard to do? OR as a bodge, could I just cut a square hole under the fender well, remove the nuts and trim strip, refit the new trim stainless, and then replace the cut out section with a „trap door“ plate for future use? That heater tube looks a pig to remove, any thoughts/ideas guys? Thanks Johnny G UK

Johnny Gardener UK
3/14/09

Hi Guys come on, give me and Gerryss57 some help with this vent cable and front fender stainless trim problem please, does the fender have to come off to remove the trim strip,as its impossible to get to the back 2 fender holding nuts, and if not, how much of a job is it to remove the vent tube to get to the back 2 fender nuts,

And in Gerrys case and mine also as I also have no vent cables fitted at all! how to refit the vent cables,? also is my „bodge“ idea possible? to cut a small trap door in the inner fender panel, and refit a small plate back after the jobs done with self tapping screws? Regards Johnny from the UK.

DAVE
3/14/09

REMOVE THE FENDER AND DO THE JOB . YOU CANUNDERCOAT THE HARD TO GET AT PLACES AT THE SAME TIME. THE TRAP DOOR WILL WORK BUT ARE YOU KIDDING . THIS WILL JUST RUIN THE INTER FENDER

Johnny Gardener UK
3/18/09

Hi, guys, so what kind of a job is it to remove the passengers side vent tube to get at the end nuts that hold the stainless trim on? I see the heater motor and mount has to come off, are you sure I cant just make a small hole in the inner fender panel to get my arm and hand onto the last 2 nuts? it will not show after I have finished, and make life easy, I cannot take the fender off, much to much of a job at 66 years old! so any other help please Guys? Thanks Johnny

larry
3/18/09

it is your car do what you want

Gearheead
3/19/09

Thanks for the in-sight Larry

Johnny Gardener UK
3/19/09

Hi Guys, its help I/we need please, has no one ever taken off the front fender stainless trim, with out taking the fender off? ? and as requested by gerrys57, what kind of a job is it to fit new vent cables, mine are missing as well on my car, they may not be massive problems, but we just want to do the jobs the easest and straightforward way, taking the fender off is a big job just to get to 2 hidden nuts! how come to remove the heater core unit, it took me a quarter of an hour, but i cannot get this damaged and bent stainless trim off? Regards Johnny

Mickey
3/20/09

HOLY CRAP MAN! It's only a bunch of bolts. Take the fender off. SAE bolts, you LIMEYs got those don't you?

Chevy Dude
3/20/09

Johnny, Removal of the front fender is the only way to remove
the rear nut from the fender trim without cutting any holes. The
front nut can be accessed by removing the headlight assembly
and the headlight bucket behind it. Since your car is a driver and
not likely to roll across the stage at Barrett-Jackson, go ahead
and cut the hole in the inner fender for access and put a patch
panel over it when your finished. Like Larry said „it's your car“.

Johnny Gardener UK
3/20/09

Thanks Chevy Dude worth a try first,

Mickey, apart from the fact that I an pushing 70 years old! the reason I dont want to take the fender off, is, I have been in the UK motor trade before most, if not all of the readers of this web side were born! and even if its an American, UK or what ever country of origin make of car, , when you take a fender or door off of an old car, They never go back exactly the same! and I just dont want the problem of spending hours trying to get the gaps as they were, its just like certan UK cars that came into my garage back in the 1950s. for a clutch change that needed the engine to come out to get the gearbox out, but we cut a small hole inside in the floor just enough to get to the top bellhousing bolts! instead of a 3 day job, it took 3 hours! enough said, have a nice day you all, Regards Johnny

mickey
3/23/09

Sorry, I don't cut holes in my car because I am too lazy to do it right.

DAVE
3/23/09

JOHN DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT TAKING IT TO A BODY SHOP AND SEE IF THEY HAVE AWAY TO REMOVE THE TRIM OFF WITH OUT REMOVING THE FENDER EVEN IF THEY DESTROY THE TRIM THEN YOUCAN CUT THETOP OF THE CLIP OFF THEN USE PLASTIC PUSH ON CLIPS

Johnny Gardener UK
3/23/09

Hi Dave, sadly that last 2 trim clips just by the door shut are held on by nuts, if only they were just the pull off type, they are that way to stop the trim moving along, to me stupid, as the rest are the nut type as well how many nut types of clip do you need to hold a trim on! 2 is enough I would have thought! my car was restored 3 years ago, and all new trim refitted, but this fender trim is badly creased and dented at the spear end, due to being caught by a duster whilst polishing, its sticking out now! no way will I, or my bodyshop take that fender off! a massive job, and it will never be the same fit again! I still recon I could cut a small trapdoor in the inner fender cover at the top,just under the vent tube, do the trim replacement job, and Mig weld in a new piece of metal, a smear of Bondo, and you would never know, its not being lazy as Mickey says, just the simple way to do it, with out doing any visable damage, I drive the car everyday, so it woiuld not be off the road, Regards anyway Dave, nice talking to you Buddy, Johnny

Gomer
3/23/09

Jonny you lazy Brit.

Tom
3/23/09

Grow up Gomer, your name describes you well. Not the forum to be insulting.

ugala
3/23/09

I agree J gardener has help many people on this site and is a good guy. we are supposed to help each other.

Johnny Gardener UK
3/24/09

Well we have opened a can of worms guys! and strangley, no one has even answered „Gerrys57“ original question, „how does he refit the front vent cables“? it seems tricky jobs just dont get done by you guys! as my car that was imported in to the UK 1989, has no vent cables fitted, so the original oner did not bother, and he had the car from new in 1957 until1989! what a pain having to open the hood every time I want to open or close the vent flaps on both sides!

SO, Ok ,how about some sound advice from old timer body shop men, would they if asked to change this front fender trim, (bearing in mind the cars in original top class condition, not a wreak) without taking the fender off, do it? or what would they do if it was their car? and I repeat, I am nearly 70 years old, with a bad hip, bodyshops wont even look at the job to do it, and those that will do it , want $200 an hour labor! and dont say " well go and buy a Morris Minor then" I love American cars and I have wanted a 57 Chevy since they first came out!

Now let me take you to page 378, in the 57 Chevrolet restorers Technical guide book,

„Some body men are now using a method of removing the (front fender) air duct without removing the fender, which affords a substantial reduction in labour, by making a special puller tool“ !!

The fender flange HAS TO BE CUT BACK WITH A HACKSAW! now come on guys, that is sence! it aint being LAZY, Gomer! and the cuts will not be seen after the lamp unit is back. so over to you guys! Regards from sunny Essex in the UK,

ned
3/24/09

Who cares do it any way you want to like larry said it is your car

ned
3/24/09

Who cares do it any way you want to like larry said it is your car

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